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One of the "substitute people"
Can I substitute for Kirsten?
Humor me...
I'm really needing to vent and thought you guys might be interested in hearing the latest shit to come my way.

As you may or may not know, I run the official site for an actor (who shall remain nameless and you'll soon understand why) and *have* run this site officially since... oh, I think '99.

As in most fandoms, there are "people" who want more than actors are prepared to give. Okay--frankly--let's call a spade a spade and call it what it is--STALKER. And some of these people have questioned my authenticity at every turn because I started the site from first being a "fan". The site was always presented and maintained as a "news & updates" site. Everything was verified before being posted and no rumors were *ever* printed. Due to this, the actor's people were impressed and awarded my site "official" status, a status I have maintained since that November night it was first made official.

I could tell you horror stories of his "fans" and the inexcusable treatment I've received by them, all in their quest to get close to him and be the ones with the "toys". They've made my life hell to the point of physical illness and even driving me to the degree of removing myself from the fandom absolutely and completely. Why stay where everything reminds me of the hell the "fans" put me through? They badgered me to the point I had to come here and re-invent myself and that's why I don't like giving out my real name. I don't want them to find me here. I was some modocum of peace, which I don't think is too much to ask for.

For the past year, he's done pretty much nothing as an actor. He's done a one-shot in a film that *he* swears will end up on the cutting room floor and two personal appearances. He asked me to not list the film on his site, so I didn't. There's just nothing to report. Nothing. Other than a film he and his brother shot but isn't available for purchase, that I even have a copy of but can't do anything with yet, that's it.

Anyway, I get this in my mail tonight (edited to remove names and site reference):

We assume that by now you are aware of our press release announcing that we have been chosen by (actor) to create and maintain a family of official websites for him.

We see that you renewed the (actor) domain yesterday. We sent you several emails trying to find out what your plans were as the site was allowed to lapse for more than a year. We heard through the fandom that you were ill and perhaps no longer interested in keeping it up.

Either way, (actor) has now made a decision to have this team maintain his official sites. Any efforts to update these sites as official will be in direct violation of (actor's) wishes. We would very much like to have the domain names to go along with that. The domains would be purchased at market price and then turned over to (actor) as owner. We would very much appreciate it if you'd talk to us directly about the possibility of taking care of things in the manner (actor) wants them done.

We hope to hear from you soon. We will be speaking to (rep) tomorrow to apprise him of the situation.

thank you,





All that and more!!! To say I am ROYALLY PISSED is an understatement. My site for him is THE official site and that's that. But this strong-armed tactic is an all-new low for even *this* bunch of bitches! And to have the nerve to threaten me to NOT update the official site I maintain????

I've tried and sis has tried googling these people and looking on yahoo for them, their "family of sites", info, etc., and there's NOTHING. Yet they're trotting all over the fandom making this "Official Announcement" and slandering my good work/name in the process and making it look as though the official site was bogus all along.

I own the .net, .com and .org addys and by damn--they'll have to pry them from my cold, dead, bleeding hands to get them away! I got them for my actor and told him if he wanted, they're his. That simple. And he knows it.

I just want all of this particular-unnamed-fandoms fans to go away and leave me the fuck in peace. I'm so mad I'm shaking. My blood pressure is sky high too. Just what I need.

The actor says it's all bogus and bullshit. Lord knows what his manager is saying and until I talk to him tomorrow, I'm biting my tongue. My actor says to not worry and I'm not fussing about the official status, just their bad-mouthing me and the site. THAT pisses me off. It's so hard to build up a good reputation and in one off-handed remark or "announcement", it causes me months of hard work just to get back to the status the site was before.


I'm going to update his site now and you know what? They can BITE ME.

Current Mood: pissed off pissed off
Current Music: The sound of blood pounding in my head in anger

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lost_in_echelon From: lost_in_echelon Date: February 19th, 2006 11:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
I love how you refer to him as "my actor". Hehe!

If I were you I would be pissed too. Fuck them and do what you want to do. Don't let anyone hold you back.
araestel From: araestel Date: February 20th, 2006 12:03 am (UTC) (Link)
LOL Well after all the crap, I'm kinda ready to tattoo "property of---" across his ass.

I just don't appreciate them trying bully me.
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araestel From: araestel Date: February 20th, 2006 12:05 am (UTC) (Link)
Years, I tell you. For *years*. But this time, they go too far.
thedrumsarereal From: thedrumsarereal Date: February 19th, 2006 11:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
That is seriously screwed up. I am really sorry you have had to put up with this shit. I wish you the best of luck.
araestel From: araestel Date: February 20th, 2006 12:08 am (UTC) (Link)
Thank you. And yes, screwed up is one way of putting it...
From: harukameko Date: February 19th, 2006 11:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ugh! Why has working for actors as their web designers been so stressful lately? Argh!!! *hugs*

So, if I am understanding this correctly, some fans put together this threatening letter to you?

I know I would be upset too. In fact, I got an email a couple weeks ago proposing for me to sell the domain of the actress I work for.

Since your actor says it's all bogus and bullshit, I would believe him and go along with what the manager says to do (I'm assuming they are on your side 100% here).
araestel From: araestel Date: February 20th, 2006 12:12 am (UTC) (Link)
I just knew *you'd* understand! *hugs*

Yes, this is another group of "fans". And I bet I can figure out at least a few of them that are involved. Personally, I think this all comes from a misunderstanding from his managers "reception Queen" and I'll work that out tomorrow. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
montmorency From: montmorency Date: February 19th, 2006 11:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
You are doing the right thing, IMO. I would be mad, too, and I absolutely would hang onto the domain names. What asshats those people are. Or maybe it's one person pretending to be people. And you know, the way some people think they can just behave like jerks and make other people feel like crap is really disgusting. I've seen it before in other ways, and I'm sorry to see that you are suffering from similar crap.
araestel From: araestel Date: February 20th, 2006 12:15 am (UTC) (Link)
These people have made me physically ill and have killed all pleasure I had in my previous fandom. I'm just plain tired of their shit. But to threaten me about updating the site??? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
veronica_rich From: veronica_rich Date: February 19th, 2006 11:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
Um ...

I'm sort of afraid to ask if they're British twins. You don't have to answer that ...
araestel From: araestel Date: February 20th, 2006 12:18 am (UTC) (Link)
The actor or the people trying to take over? But the answer if actor--no. Taking over--I dunno. I can't find out any info.
miladyhawke From: miladyhawke Date: February 19th, 2006 11:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh, geez. Blech! I'm so sorry to hear that - I can't imagine going through all that. Wow. I'm pretty sure that fans are simultaneously the best and worst thing about a fandom. And it's amazing what a simple lies spread around will do, and how people believe anything. Gah. *hugs*
araestel From: araestel Date: February 20th, 2006 12:21 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm just so tired of dealing with their shit. I'm to the point I HATE the word "fan" after all they've put me through. And it's all because of jealously--that's the kicker. Just because I had the courage and guts to do what I did, they're envious and try to start shit at every turn. I'm just plain tired of it.
elflady_2001 From: elflady_2001 Date: February 19th, 2006 11:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh I'm so sorry you're going through this. If the actor says it's bogus and bullshit then it is. You've got his backing and that's what counts. Maybe his manager or even the actor himself can write something on official stationary like "there are no plans to move away from www.thisactor's.com/net/org as my official site. Any claims made by other parties is false..."

What do you think?

I wish fandom bitches would quit being jealous. They're only giving fans and fandom a bad name and of course, they're causing you a great deal of distress. *stabs them in the eye for you*

*hugs you tight*
araestel From: araestel Date: February 20th, 2006 12:25 am (UTC) (Link)
The thought had crossed my mind, but it's ridiculous that I have to go through this. I shouldn't have to. And honestly, to these fans? Posting something will still be questioned and belittled. I know them and frankly, until he names the site publically in an interview or some other forum such as that, there will always be questions. And he just doesn't think about it. Not like he's in demand for anything right now anyway. Though he may be getting some press soon. I dunno. All I know is I'm tired of all thsi shit and crap and honestly, jusst plain hate 97% of his fans. I could very easily get something written from him or his representation but they'd just calll it fake. I just feel like I'm in a no-win situation right now and it's a place I shouldn't even be.

sarahc517 From: sarahc517 Date: February 20th, 2006 12:10 am (UTC) (Link)
Actually, I can totally sympathize with what you are going through. My mom and I had an official fan club for an actor *Viacom/Paramount seal of approval and all that crap* for several years in the 1990s. We had so many crazies, and this was before the net was as large as it is today. Our club no longer exists, because well, our actor is a total asshole/drunk/no-talent idiot who has barely worked since.

That's besides the point. There are few people who know how stressful running such things are. There are times when the internet isn't worth it. But at least you have friends like us here on LJ, who love you and support you! **Huggles**

(PS, sorry for my rant there.... didn't mean to do that.!)
araestel From: araestel Date: February 20th, 2006 12:29 am (UTC) (Link)
Rant away! I know what you mean!

And yes, I've very glad and lucky to have you all here. I just can't help but wonder if anyone around is from that previous fandom. That's how paranoid they've made me. I was never ashamed of who I was or what I did--I'm my own person. But for my sanity and health, I had to *become* someone else. At least I finally embraced my new persona and it feels as comfy as my real name now. It just took awhile. ;)

Working with actors is challenging enough. Dealing with their fans is more like the 31st level of hell.
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araestel From: araestel Date: February 20th, 2006 12:52 am (UTC) (Link)
I didn't know of this problem until today. And no, they never contacted me about the site. I hate them Thanks to them and their shit, I've lost have the muscles in my face and I can't even smile anymore. Why would I ever want to deal with them again, you know? *sigh* And just the mere mention of their characters is enouhg to make me run screaming. They killed all pleasure I ever had in that fandom.
padabee From: padabee Date: February 20th, 2006 01:32 am (UTC) (Link)
That's why 'fans' sometimes scare me... that's the dark side of fandom and I'm sorry that you have to go through this shit. However, update and kick them in their tight little asses *puts on cheerleader gear and hops around*
From: (Anonymous) Date: February 20th, 2006 11:08 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm so pissed right now I can barely see straight. These "fans" have bothered me for years and I've had ENOUGH.

I didn't get much sleep last night and now it's starting again. AARRGH!
From: wendy_j_66 Date: February 20th, 2006 01:53 am (UTC) (Link)
My heart goes out to you Araestel. I know a little of what you are going through, but not to the extent of your problem. I run an Orlando forum, it's not official, it's just a small board of around 60 members, but the amount of, hell I'll say it CRAP, that I have to deal with from fans is unbelievable. I met Orlando for around 10 seconds at the London KOH premiere, it was enough for one person to continually bombard me with e-mails asking 'what did he smell like, how tall was he, how tanned was his skin,could I send a scan of my autograph etc etc. It got to the stage where I had to change my boards e-mail addy and I even left one forum.

I guess when you have someone famous, everyone wants a bit of not only a bit of that person but anyone who has been in the slightest contact with him/her. It's appauling that we are not allowed to enjoy out fandom our way without being harrassed.

I wish you all the luck and hope you come out smiling the other side.

veronica_rich From: veronica_rich Date: February 20th, 2006 07:15 am (UTC) (Link)
Yes, people are definitely WEIRD about famous folk. I mean, for Chrissake, they're just fellow people. Who cares what they smell like? (Which is creepy enough to contemplate sitting at home by yourself not bothering anyone with it.)

I always want to tell these people, if you want to meet a famous person, just fucking DO IT. Go to a premiere or a convention and stand in line for an autograph. Take a picture. Wave at the guy. It's really not that difficult; I have little enough money and I've managed to meet a few famous people in the past several years just by staying aware of activities in places I can actually go.

I was on a mailing list years ago for an actor, and it was really a lot of fun the first year or so because everyone's mind, while in the gutter, was at least sane and rooted in reality. But then we had this bitch join our list who went on about her stalking activities, and it went on for far too long before a fellow member finally belittled her enough that she cleared the hell out (to this day I don't know why the list moderator didn't just ban her - I'd have done it after about a week). Point is, it ruined things for the rest of us even after she was gone.
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sibelle_art From: sibelle_art Date: February 20th, 2006 01:54 am (UTC) (Link)
Wow, I didn´t know all that. But in your situation it would terribly piss me off, too. Some fans are completely insane. I used to have some "famous" friends, too, and the stories they told me about stalkers are almost unbelievable :S.
I´m sorry you have to deal with so much shit :(. *hugs*
araestel From: araestel Date: February 20th, 2006 11:19 am (UTC) (Link)
Thanks honey! I really appreciate your support. *hugs*

I'm honestly sick of all this shit. The "fans" have driven me nuts for years. So much so that I was driven from a fandom I loved, forced to remove my fic (even though the actor knew I wrote it), my art and my entire site. I gave and gave and gave to the fandom, monetarily (when I had it) and hard work. And all I got for it was a bad case of nerves, high blood pressure and facial paralysis. I thought that was enough.

This latest round blind-sided me and has left me seeing red. GRRRRRRRR
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: February 20th, 2006 02:26 am (UTC) (Link)
How awful for you.

I do wish you all the best in this and hope that things get sorted out as painlessly as possible. You're right, hold on to that thought, as difficult and painful as it might be. Some people are just so vicious and nasty and seem to get the greatest of pleasure in hurting other folk and attempting to ruin their good names. But people who know you will trust and believe in you and your integrity. {{Hugs}}

araestel From: araestel Date: February 20th, 2006 11:20 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm not *in* the fandom now so I really don't know what is going on, thouhg I do have friends who have tried to keep me informed. Also, they've sent me links and there seems to be support there for me as well. It's just more shit I didn't want to have to deal with.
tiniowien From: tiniowien Date: February 20th, 2006 02:28 am (UTC) (Link)
You've got enough opinions, advice and such, so I'll just offer extra hugs to lower the blood pressure.
araestel From: araestel Date: February 20th, 2006 11:40 am (UTC) (Link)
Thanks honey. *hugs*
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